Speed Not Reasonable and Prudent – VTL 1180(a)

Exceeding the speed limit is against the law—everyone knows that. Most people also know that the fines for speeding can increase depending on the location of the violation; for example, speeding in a work or school zone will double the fines of any traffic ticket. And multiple violations can lead to additional penalties, along with suspensions.

What you may not know, however, is that driving at or even below the speed limit can lead to a speeding ticket. This violation is listed under the New York Vehicle and Traffic Law, VTL, section 1180(a), and states as follows:  No person shall drive a vehicle at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing.

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This statute does not provide guidance as to what qualifies as reasonable and prudent, which conditions are in question, and what is considered an ‘actual and potential hazard.’ Unlike other sections of the Vehicle and Traffic Law – where violations are clear-cut, this section does not clearly delineate what warrants a ticket.

Fines and Penalties for Violating Section 1180(a)

The fines for a first offense are as follows:

If a second offense is committed within 18 months of the first offense, the fines penalties increase to:

  • 3 more points
  • $300 maximum fine
  • $93 court fee
  • Up to 30 days incarceration

For a 3rd offense within 18 months:

  • 3 more points
  • $525 maximum fine
  • $93 court fee
  • Up to 30 days incarceration
  • Mandatory license suspension

Most auto insurance companies will also raise your insurance premiums for a Speed Not Reasonable and Prudent violation.

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Driver Responsibility Assessment

Upon receiving a total of 6 or more points within an 18-month period, a driver is subject to an additional DMV penalty known as a “driver responsibility assessment” or DRA. The fine for a DRA is $300 for 6 points ($100 per year for 3 years), and $75 for each point above 6 ($25 per year for 3 years).

Language of the 1180(a) Statute

A look at the language of the statute, along with case law on the subject, will help understand what conduct this section governs – although what precise action will qualify is often subjective in nature.

“No person shall drive a vehicle at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent”

This section does not set forth a specific speed. Therefore, the current speed limit of the road is irrelevant. What precisely defines ‘reasonable and prudent’ is a question for litigation.

“Under the conditions and“

The condition of the road must be taken into account. While the majority of people do drive slower in inclement weather, for example, we all are familiar with the driver whom is at the speed limit, but is clearly driving faster than the other cars, and is driving unsafely. This section allows for the ticketing of such a driver.

“Having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing.”

Drivers are cautioned to be wary of actual – such as ice on the roadways – and potential hazards – such as possible debris on roadways from storms – while driving.

How fast is too fast can really be summed up in two words – drive reasonably. During Super Storm Sandy, for example, driving any speed was unreasonable. Therefore, driving a mere 1 mile per hour can arguably be a violation of this section. A light rain, on the other hand, will allow for a speed closer to the actual speed limit.

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Case Law Analysis

In NY v. Kehoe, the Court acknowledged the significant differences between two types of speeding offenses – §1180(a) and §1180(b). Whereas subsection (b) prohibits driving above a certain limit, subsection (a) governs driving irrespective of the posted speed limit, but rather, the conditions of the road.

In Peschieri v Estate of Ballweber (285 AD2d 921 [2001]), a passenger on a motorcycle was killed when the driver of the motorcycle crashed because of a car which had made an illegal turn.  The court found that the driver of the motorcycle, Iacobelli, was entitled to judgment as a matter of law because there was “[U]ndisputed evidence that Iacobelli was traveling at the speed limit with no adverse conditions or obstructions requiring a further reduction in speed, and that the Ballweber vehicle’s turn in front of him was sudden and unexpected.

In this ruling, the court had highlighted the importance of factual evidence that proved that the driver was not driving unreasonably. As there was no way to predict any potential dangers, no violation had occurred. Merely causing an accident will not suffice. There must be actual unreasonable driving in order to violate the statute.

Who Should You Call

As we can see from both the language of the statute and the associated cases, whether you are convicted of violating the statute will be dependent on what is to be considered reasonable and prudent based on the road conditions. As this is a subjective question, attorneys are vital to assist in litigating this central question. How fast is too fast does not have a definitive answer. Certain situations warrant a reduced speed. What speed that is, however, will require testimony and the introduction of evidence.

If you have been ticketed for a violation of 1180(a) Speed Not Reasonable and Prudent, the experienced attorneys at The Rosenblum Law Firm can help fight your ticket and save you from points, fines, and auto insurance increases. Call us for a free consultation at 888-434-0406.

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  1. Hi. I am from Ohio and was driving to Binghamton, NY today, when a snow storm started in the middle of my trip. I kept checking the brakes on the snow and they were fine. I was in the left lane and came up to a cop car. I tried to brake to get into the right lane, but my wheels were spinning. There was a car immediately to my right, and the stopped cop car in front of me. The reason the cop was pulled over, was because there was another car way off into the ditch. Gut decision making, I slowed as much as I can on the road and bailed between the cop car and the ditch car – only option that avoided hitting anything. I obviously made sure everyone was ok (I didn’t hit anyone or anything and everyone was fine). I got a ticket for “speed not reasonable and prudent”. To my knowledge, there are no other tickets on my license currently, and this is definitely the first offense in NY. What do I do?

    1. Jessica – I suggest contesting this violation as this will likely impact your insurance rates. Furthermore, fines are approximately $243.00, and this will add 3 points to your NY Driving record.

  2. I recently was in a minor car accident and was given a ticket for speed not reasonable and prudent.. I was driving very slow due to the snowy condition of the road. The problem came when i was approaching a stop light and a car was there already but i tried to stop but breaks wasn’t working and my car slid into to the next. I wasn’t aware that if there is a lot or a little snow on the road your wheels keep going because its slippery on the road and i had no way to stop the car. So when i hit the other car i was able to put the car in park. The person i hit got a sprained neck but even through i was being very careful i still have to deal with the consequence of this accident. I don’t want to plea guilty because i was not driving at unreasonable speed but i feel bad because someone got hurt. I know it was bad outside but i couldn’t stop the car. I am looking for advice on how to proceed. thanks

    1. I strongly suggest pleading not-guilty to this offense. Since you have been involved in an accident, it is important to assure that this violation will not be used in potential future civil litigation. You may contact us for a free consultation at 888-883-5529.

  3. I recently got into an mva and ticketed for speed not reasonable/prudent, and moved from lane unsafely. I was in my own lane and hit a utility pole on the same side, nor did I cross double yellow lines. I was not speeding, but I did slide on ice. Because the brakes locked up and couldn’t steer, I hit the pole. I shouldn’t have to plead guilty when I didn’t move from my lane, or was going over speed limit.

    1. If you are interested in contesting the ticket, you may reach us for a free consulation. We would be happy to discuss your current options.

  4. i recently got a ticket for imprudent driving but I feel as though my speed was not the cause of the accident.. I was driving around a curve in the round when I reached the curve I hit a patch of black ice and that’s when my car began to fish tale and I was headed to twards a snow bank so trying to stop this I turned the wheel completley causing me to spin 180 degrees and slide to the other side of the street and hit a vehicle in oncoming traffic…while waiting for the tow truck another car slipped on the same patch of ice but hit the snow bank.. Is this worth taking to court or should I accept whatever deal is offered?

  5. I recently had been in an accident in which I hit a patch of black ice and slid into a stop sign. The officer who ticketed me told me that while he “didn’t want” to issue a ticket, he had to give me a ticket because I had damaged public property by hitting the stop sign. after trying to fight the 1180a charge I still got a form in the mail stating that they are sticking with that charge. What can be done, I don’t want to plead guilty when I didn’t do anything wrong.

  6. I recently got a speeding ticket which i dont believe i was doing 45mph in a 30mph zone. the officer lowered it to 43mph. The area i was driving in switches from 30mph to 40mph so its a possibility i may have been going 40 in a 30. How much would my cost be if i plead guilty in Upstate NY area (Rome, NY)?